kick around vs talk about

kick around

verb
  • To be discussed informally; to be considered. 

  • To wander loose; to float around; to hang around. 

  • To abuse or mistreat; to bully; to be rough with. 

noun
  • An informal game of football, rugby or similar sports. 

talk about

verb
  • Used other than figuratively or idiomatically: see talk, about. (Compare discuss.) 

  • Used to draw attention to the speaker's approval or affirmation of someone or something 

  • Used to draw attention to the speaker's characterization of someone or something 

How often have the words kick around and talk about occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )