kick around vs talk through

kick around

verb
  • To be discussed informally; to be considered. 

  • To wander loose; to float around; to hang around. 

  • To abuse or mistreat; to bully; to be rough with. 

noun
  • An informal game of football, rugby or similar sports. 

talk through

verb
  • To tell someone step by step how to do something. 

  • To comfort someone as they endure trauma; to help someone consider an issue or see certain aspects of it. 

How often have the words kick around and talk through occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )