piss in the wind vs piss up a rope

piss in the wind

verb
  • To waste time on a pointless or fruitless task; do something that is ineffective or counterproductive. 

piss up a rope

verb
  • To engage in futile or impossible activity. 

  • Used as an abrupt dismissal. 

How often have the words piss in the wind and piss up a rope occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )