bat around vs talk over

bat around

verb
  • To discuss. 

  • To flit quickly from place to place. 

  • To have each of a team's batting line-up positions complete an at-bat in the same half-inning. 

  • To have a team's first batter of the inning come to bat for a second time (after all of the others in the batting line-up have batted). (See the usage note below.) 

talk over

verb
  • To discuss; to converse about a matter or issue. 

  • To persuade (someone); to talk around. 

  • To verbally interrupt (someone); to speak at the same time as someone else. 

How often have the words bat around and talk over occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )