talk over vs toy with

talk over

verb
  • To persuade (someone); to talk around. 

  • To discuss; to converse about a matter or issue. 

  • To verbally interrupt (someone); to speak at the same time as someone else. 

toy with

verb
  • To handle something in a careless or frivolous manner. 

  • To play, especially with or as with a toy. 

How often have the words talk over and toy with occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )