talk over vs win over

talk over

verb
  • To persuade (someone); to talk around. 

  • To discuss; to converse about a matter or issue. 

  • To verbally interrupt (someone); to speak at the same time as someone else. 

win over

verb
  • To persuade someone, gain someone's support, or make someone understand the truth or validity of something. 

How often have the words talk over and win over occurred in a corpus of books? (source: Google Ngram Viewer )